Multi-Dwelling Unit - New Construction
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Posted by Michael Quinlan on March 12, 2007, 9:57 am
Please log in for more thread options A company I do a lot of commercial subcontract work for has asked me to give them a price on wiring approximately 70 townhouses for voice, data and video. My plan so far is to provide (2) CAT5e and (2) RG6 Quad-Shield to a single location in each bedroom, the living room, and kitchen (a counter top location), and (1) CAT5e in the kitchen (for a wall phone). Additionally, two RG6 Quad-Shield cables will be run from an attic location to the distribution panel, for possible satellite connections. I also plan to provide (1) CAT5e 4-pair, and one RG6 Quad-Shield cables as a demarc extension from the building demarc to each units distribution panel. With this in mind, I have a few questions: 1. Is anything I have listed above considered too much or too little? 2. Are there any multi-dwelling unit considerations I should be aware of? a. access to attic space for first-floor-only units (satellite installation) b. routing of cables to a unit via another units space (attic) All of the residential work I've done before has been retrofits of single family homes, so this is a new area for me, and any help would be appreciated. | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Al Dykes on March 12, 2007, 10:04 am
Please log in for more thread options IMO, you can cut way back on the pulls to all the rooms if you plan for a few neat WiFi locations that will, if lit-up with APs, provide strong coverage to the entire house and the appropriate patio/pool areas. You can't always anticipate where the owner wants to put his device in a room, or the number of devices. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Ed Nielsen on March 12, 2007, 10:35 am
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I would recommend pulling 4 RG 6s to the attic for HDTV satellite. (I'm in the midst of dealing with that now in a development of 12-plexes, and would seriously love to slap the developer with the "I'm going to save me some money and only pull 1 cable" attitude) I would also suggest pulling 2 CAT5e from the demarc rather than 1. The developer may have plans now or in the future for a fixed wireless ISP, and it would be better to have a cable for them rather than having to share with telco. CIAO! Ed N. >A company I do a lot of commercial subcontract work for has asked me
> to give them a price on wiring approximately 70 townhouses for voice, > data and video. My plan so far is to provide (2) CAT5e and (2) RG6 > Quad-Shield to a single location in each bedroom, the living room, and > kitchen (a counter top location), and (1) CAT5e in the kitchen (for a > wall phone). Additionally, two RG6 Quad-Shield cables will be run > from an attic location to the distribution panel, for possible > satellite connections. > > I also plan to provide (1) CAT5e 4-pair, and one RG6 Quad-Shield > cables as a demarc extension from the building demarc to each units > distribution panel. > > With this in mind, I have a few questions: > > 1. Is anything I have listed above considered too much or too > little? > 2. Are there any multi-dwelling unit considerations I should be > aware of? > a. access to attic space for first-floor-only units > (satellite installation) > b. routing of cables to a unit via another units space > (attic) > > All of the residential work I've done before has been retrofits of > single family homes, so this is a new area for me, and any help would > be appreciated. > | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Carl Navarro on March 12, 2007, 12:42 pm
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On 12 Mar 2007 06:57:11 -0700, "Michael Quinlan" >A company I do a lot of commercial subcontract work for has asked me
>to give them a price on wiring approximately 70 townhouses for voice, >data and video. My plan so far is to provide (2) CAT5e and (2) RG6 >Quad-Shield to a single location in each bedroom, the living room, and >kitchen (a counter top location), and (1) CAT5e in the kitchen (for a >wall phone). Additionally, two RG6 Quad-Shield cables will be run >from an attic location to the distribution panel, for possible >satellite connections. > >I also plan to provide (1) CAT5e 4-pair, and one RG6 Quad-Shield >cables as a demarc extension from the building demarc to each units >distribution panel. > >With this in mind, I have a few questions: > > 1. Is anything I have listed above considered too much or too >little? Reading ahead, define townhouse. I picture a two story structure with bedrooms up, maybe a bedroom on the 1st floor, and a basement. It's tough to predict, but is there a chance that someone would want a home office on the first floor? It would tend to need data, both in the living room and a second location in the same room. I'd seriously consider pulling more cables to the rooms, especially if the aforementioned basement exists. You don't necessarily have to trim them out, but at least they're in place. Let them hang in a box and put a blank cover over the unused spots. They are pricey, but look to put a distribution box between studs or on the wall in these units. Even if you don't use the modules, you'll have a nice area to terminate the cables. I'd also pull a pair of data and video cables to the demarc. You always want the backup video and someone may try to do some common data sharing or more than 4 phone lines in their space. Perhaps even the tenant association might spring for broadband. > 2. Are there any multi-dwelling unit considerations I should be
>aware of? > a. access to attic space for first-floor-only units >(satellite installation) Carlon Smurf tubes work, but how did you get single floor units...on the ends? > b. routing of cables to a unit via another units space
>(attic) No issues there. It's just like a motel or apartment complex. One man's floor is another man's ceiling :-) Carl Navarro | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by DLR on March 12, 2007, 12:52 pm
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Michael Quinlan wrote: > A company I do a lot of commercial subcontract work for has asked me
> to give them a price on wiring approximately 70 townhouses for voice, > data and video. My plan so far is to provide (2) CAT5e and (2) RG6 > Quad-Shield to a single location in each bedroom, the living room, and > kitchen (a counter top location), and (1) CAT5e in the kitchen (for a > wall phone). Additionally, two RG6 Quad-Shield cables will be run > from an attic location to the distribution panel, for possible > satellite connections. > > I also plan to provide (1) CAT5e 4-pair, and one RG6 Quad-Shield > cables as a demarc extension from the building demarc to each units > distribution panel. > > With this in mind, I have a few questions: > > 1. Is anything I have listed above considered too much or too > little? > 2. Are there any multi-dwelling unit considerations I should be > aware of? > a. access to attic space for first-floor-only units > (satellite installation) > b. routing of cables to a unit via another units space > (attic) > > All of the residential work I've done before has been retrofits of > single family homes, so this is a new area for me, and any help would > be appreciated. > I recently helped out someone buying a house in a PUD where it had been pre-wired with the Leviton system but drywall not yet up so we could adjust a few things. They were wiring the entire house with 1 RG6 and 2 Cat5 cables to each room. TV, Phone, Enet. They did have ONE RG6 to a south 2nd floor eave for cable. I had them add a second Cat5 to a few locations where they might want a router that they could feed down to the distribution plus one new complete set for a better TV location in the living room. Oh, yeah, the Leviton panel had 2 6 way splitters with one chained off the second crammed inside a cabinet that was at least one size too small. All phone wires onto 1 8 pair jack. Buildings worry about $10. Consumers don't know what they are getting. In this case the builder was saying we have the house completely wired for the future. Our requests were considered very "high end custom". I think this is almost a deal where the builder gets to sell "wired for the future" houses and the folks doing the wiring get to do a LOT of custom upgrades via referral down the road. And I bet a lot of them involved splitting the Cat5 cable used for Ethernet into 2 runs to allow for things that need to get to a useful location and back. | ||||||||||||||||
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| Multi-Dwelling Unit - New Construction | March 12, 2007, 9:57 am |
>to give them a price on wiring approximately 70 townhouses for voice,
>data and video. My plan so far is to provide (2) CAT5e and (2) RG6
>Quad-Shield to a single location in each bedroom, the living room, and
>kitchen (a counter top location), and (1) CAT5e in the kitchen (for a
>wall phone). Additionally, two RG6 Quad-Shield cables will be run
>from an attic location to the distribution panel, for possible
>satellite connections.
>
>I also plan to provide (1) CAT5e 4-pair, and one RG6 Quad-Shield
>cables as a demarc extension from the building demarc to each units
>distribution panel.
>
>With this in mind, I have a few questions:
>
> 1. Is anything I have listed above considered too much or too
>little?
> 2. Are there any multi-dwelling unit considerations I should be
>aware of?
> a. access to attic space for first-floor-only units
>(satellite installation)
> b. routing of cables to a unit via another units space
>(attic)
>
>All of the residential work I've done before has been retrofits of
>single family homes, so this is a new area for me, and any help would
>be appreciated.
>