LAN and Telecom Cabling Minimum 10Base100 Cable Length

Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
Minimum 10Base100 Cable Length Bob Holding 07-16-04
Posted by Bob Holding on July 16, 2004, 9:32 am
Please log in for more thread options
I've scoured the Internet searching for the minimum 10Base100 UTP
cable length, but there seems to be no consistency. Several sources
state different lengths and include footnotes with different
applications...

So, I have two network devices sitting one on top of the other. They
are an HA cluster that are using a 10Base100 heartbeat. The RJ-45
jacks on the two devices are approximately two inches apart. I would
like the heartbeat cable to be as short as possible and adhere to
cabling standards, but I can't find any hard reference to any IEEE
specs for my situation...

Can anyone help me justify a three inch heartbeat cable?

Thanks.


Posted by Thomas Beneken on July 16, 2004, 10:08 pm
Please log in for more thread options
Bob,

there is an issue with crosstalk. A very short cable doesn't decouple the
NEXT of the two connectors. You end up with 3 dB less NEXT. But this should
be no problem for 10BaseT or 100BaseT (Fast Ethernet).

Thomas

NEXT is Near End Crosstalk, generated by the connectors, cable contributes
much less

> I've scoured the Internet searching for the minimum 10Base100 UTP
> cable length, but there seems to be no consistency. Several sources
> state different lengths and include footnotes with different
> applications...
>
> So, I have two network devices sitting one on top of the other. They
> are an HA cluster that are using a 10Base100 heartbeat. The RJ-45
> jacks on the two devices are approximately two inches apart. I would
> like the heartbeat cable to be as short as possible and adhere to
> cabling standards, but I can't find any hard reference to any IEEE
> specs for my situation...
>
> Can anyone help me justify a three inch heartbeat cable?
>
> Thanks.




Posted by glen herrmannsfeldt on July 17, 2004, 7:52 am
Please log in for more thread options
Thomas Beneken wrote:

> there is an issue with crosstalk. A very short cable doesn't decouple the
> NEXT of the two connectors. You end up with 3 dB less NEXT. But this should
> be no problem for 10BaseT or 100BaseT (Fast Ethernet).

That may be true, but in terms of signal to noise ratio,
there is more signal so that a little more noise shouldn't
cause much of a problem.

There may be some fiber systems that will saturate the
receiver if the cable is too short.

-- glen



Posted by Robert Redelmeier on July 17, 2004, 2:12 am
Please log in for more thread options
> So, I have two network devices sitting one on top of
> the other. They are an HA cluster that are using a
> 10Base100 heartbeat. The RJ-45 jacks on the two devices
> are approximately two inches apart. I would like the
> heartbeat cable to be as short as possible and adhere to
> cabling standards, but I can't find any hard reference to
> any IEEE specs for my situation...

> Can anyone help me justify a three inch heartbeat cable?

I have in my hand such an interface crossover cables.
Wire length about 8cm, and they ran 100baseTX full duplex
without trouble at full speed (~12 MByte/s each direction).
I also have made loopback plugs with 2cm total wire length.

-- Robert



Similar ThreadsPosted
Minimum 10Base100 Cable Length July 16, 2004, 9:32 am
Cable length July 18, 2006, 9:43 pm
Program to Estimate Cat 5 Cable Length October 1, 2004, 4:52 pm
Power + DSL signal in same 700ft cable length October 12, 2006, 6:35 pm
OTDR: Launch Cable Length for Singlemode April 10, 2008, 2:50 pm
Re: Ethernet connection sensitive to cable length May 3, 2008, 12:37 pm
Cabling length December 1, 2005, 4:47 am
Average Length of Cat5 Run August 25, 2004, 10:21 am
Maximum Length for 1000Base-SX September 15, 2006, 2:25 pm
Looking for 2 MM LC-LC fiber cables 30m to 50m in length-surplus/cheap October 6, 2004, 1:48 am
OTDR: Launch Cable; Receive Cable April 10, 2008, 2:46 pm
Can I use a CAT5 cable as a TV Coax cable? October 14, 2006, 2:13 pm
Which end is bad of cable July 7, 2005, 10:51 pm
Cable Managers - 1U vs 2U August 12, 2004, 11:01 pm
Re Cable Managers - 1U vs 2U August 13, 2004, 10:28 am