LAN and Telecom Cabling Long Cat5e runs

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Long Cat5e runs winternals2006 02-13-06
---> Re: Long Cat5e runs Robert Redelmei...02-13-06
Posted by on February 13, 2006, 12:01 pm
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Thought about wireless, but very thick tree coverage; no LOS. Cable
will be buried about 1 ft deep. Would standard emt conduit shield it
from induced charge?


Posted by Robert Redelmeier on February 13, 2006, 7:12 pm
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winternals2006@yahoo.com wrote in part:
> Thought about wireless, but very thick tree coverage; no
> LOS. Cable will be buried about 1 ft deep. Would standard
> emt conduit shield it from induced charge?

No. The problem is not induction. The different building
ground-stakes will be driven to different potentials during
a nearby strike. Then the Cat5 becomes a ground-path.

-- Robert



Posted by none on February 13, 2006, 9:31 pm
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> winternals2006@yahoo.com wrote in part:
> > Thought about wireless, but very thick tree coverage; no
> > LOS. Cable will be buried about 1 ft deep. Would standard
> > emt conduit shield it from induced charge?
>
> No. The problem is not induction. The different building
> ground-stakes will be driven to different potentials during
> a nearby strike. Then the Cat5 becomes a ground-path.

This really isn't a problem. Ethernet is transformer coupled and as long as
you use proper grounding (both the house and ethernet service entrance)
it'll be OK (a direct hit will almost always fry something, and the
electrostatic discharge from a near miss.will probably fry something
(although it might not be obvious why your computer keeps randomly
crashing)).

If this was a problem, then we wouldn't have telephone/DSL or cable TV
service (or satellite dishes), etc.



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Posted by Robert Redelmeier on February 13, 2006, 10:08 pm
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>> No. The problem is not induction. The different building
>> ground-stakes will be driven to different potentials during
>> a nearby strike. Then the Cat5 becomes a ground-path.
>
> This really isn't a problem. Ethernet is transformer coupled

With something like 500V isolation and perhaps 1500V breakdown.
Almost nothing during a lightening strike when ground gradients
are kV/m

> and as long as you use proper grounding (both the house
> and ethernet service entrance) it'll be OK

Correct, if you can find Cat5 ethernet protectors and put the
service entrance close to the groundstake. Unfortunately,
many people think they can run wire without these precautions.

-- Robert


Posted by DLR on February 14, 2006, 5:34 am
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Robert Redelmeier wrote:
>>> No. The problem is not induction. The different building
>>> ground-stakes will be driven to different potentials during
>>> a nearby strike. Then the Cat5 becomes a ground-path.
>> This really isn't a problem. Ethernet is transformer coupled
>
> With something like 500V isolation and perhaps 1500V breakdown.
> Almost nothing during a lightening strike when ground gradients
> are kV/m
>
>> and as long as you use proper grounding (both the house
>> and ethernet service entrance) it'll be OK
>
> Correct, if you can find Cat5 ethernet protectors and put the
> service entrance close to the groundstake. Unfortunately,
> many people think they can run wire without these precautions.

And what most folks don't know is that the MOVs wear out over time. And
even with these you can still get differential voltages as you have two
paths into each house. One from the power, one from the Ethernet.

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