LAN and Telecom Cabling I'm Getting Sick and Tired of This

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I'm Getting Sick and Tired of This Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th 04-29-05
Posted by Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th on May 27, 2005, 10:49 pm
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> Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:

> > Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
> > because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts
corroded
> > so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
> > yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad.
It,
> > too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were
just
> > black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
>
> > I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
> > the
> > last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX
just
> > puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
> > problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
> > threes..

Well, this week I think I've found another intermittent or dead phone
that was caused by water leaking into the bldg. The 66 block contacts
were turning green from corrosion, and the buildup of green between on
the block itself was obvious. I have to go back over next week and do
some cleaning to see if I can get it to work okay. It's an old green
can on the wall of an old bldg with a 66M4(?) block in it. Like the old
1A2 installations used wherever. If I had the time, I'd run a new cable
back to the MDF, but the cabling is tied to power conduits way up in a
garage ceiling, and I think they are much higher than 16 feet above the
ground. I taped a tone tracer on the end of a 10 foot conduit so I
could hold it up there to trace the wiring, but it's so high that I
can't reach it with my arms extended above my head. Figuring 10 feet
for the conduit and 7 feet for the height of my hands, I'm still a few
feet short of reaching it. So I don't even want to consider dragging a
huge ladder over there to do it. So if I have to, I might just cut off
the 66 block and punch the wires down on another one that's not
corroded.

Last week we had our Publications Dept move across town to a completely
new bldg. They have some very old printing presses and new
state-of-the-art Xerox machines that are out in the middle of the floor.
So they had the electric contractor come and put in power drops from the
high ceiling. Big ol' rubber cables with 3-phase, probably 12 gauge or
10 gauge stranded. They just left their ladder in the middle of the
room because the socket for the old plugs had to be special ordered and
will it be 'a few days', more like a few weeks. This ladder is at least
16 feet high, and is all aluminum. I'm thinking that these sparkies are
courting disaster with an all aluminum ladder! But then one of the
electricians has big spider webs tatooed over each of his elbows so I
guess they know what they're doing. ;-)





Posted by avcomdesign on May 27, 2005, 1:22 am
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The connection Charles is talking about is made to block corrosive effects
of humidity, saltwater, chemicals, water, dirt, and other contaminants.

I saw the best testament to the effectiveness of the connection in Grand
forks, North Dakota. In 99’ a flood claimed most of the city. All of the
electrical and phone services were disabled. The only connections that
worked after they activated the new phone switches on were connections
from Suttle. Complete submersed and under water for over two weeks the
connection maintain the integrity of the circuit. If you have other
underlying problem please contact me @ www.avcomdesign.com/TAC/

The specs for the jacks and how they work are linked below.

http://www.suttleonline.com/corroshield.html

AV ComDesign
Registered communication Distribution Designer
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:




> Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
> because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
> so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
> yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
> too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
> black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.

> I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
> the
> last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
> puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
> problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
> threes..


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Posted by newwiringguy on July 27, 2005, 10:59 pm
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Have you tried Suttle's Corroshield product with the gel in the jacks to
prevent corroding?

www.suttleonline.com

Newwiringguy

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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:




> Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
> because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts corroded
> so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
> yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad. It,
> too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were just
> black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.

> I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
> the
> last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX just
> puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
> problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
> threes..


> --
> @@F@r@o@m@@O@r@a@n@g@e@@C@o@u@n@t@y@,@@C@a@l@,@@w@h@e@r@e@@
> ###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:###
> http://users.pandora.be/educypedia/electronics/databank.htm
> My email address is whitelisted. *All* email sent to it
> goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the
> Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
> Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
> that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
> http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
> Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
> changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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Posted by Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th on July 30, 2005, 7:34 pm
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> Have you tried Suttle's Corroshield product with the gel in the jacks
to
> prevent corroding?
>
> www.suttleonline.com
>
> Newwiringguy

I don't know anything about Suttle. I use only Systimax jacks,
faceplates and surface mount boxes or the Leviton 110 series. I've
never seen any of their products with gel in them. Thanks.


> -------------------------------------
> Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:

> > Back in Jan, Feb and Mar I replace the same jack not once, but twice
> > because it got wet from moisture in the wall, and the contacts
corroded
> > so badly that they literally fried themselves to pieces. It rained
> > yesterday, and another RJ-14 jack at a different campus went bad.
It,
> > too, cooked itself to the point where the two middle contacts were
just
> > black crumbs, the two outer gold plated contacts stayed intact.
>
> > I'm getting really tired of this. The first two were Leviton jacks,
> > the
> > last one was a biscuit made by armiger. I guess our digital PBX
just
> > puts out too much power to each phone. The last time I had this
> > problem was many years ago. Something about things happening in
> > threes..




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