LAN and Telecom Cabling How to RJ-45 with 3 pair (6 wires) cable

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How to RJ-45 with 3 pair (6 wires) cable djenka2 08-16-06
Posted by DLR on August 17, 2006, 12:31 am
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Carl Navarro wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have network cable thru newly fnished house, the wiring is done from
>>> mechanical room into 6 different rooms. I am planning to crimp RJ-45
>>> connectors on each end but have the problem because I don't know whch
>>> scheme to use. The problem is that in some rooms I have 4-pair (8
>>> wires) but in some rooms I have 3-pair (6 wires) cables. What scheme
>>> should I use for RJ-45 connectors in both cases in order to have all 6
>>> rooms fully functional.
>>> Website links, pictures, ideas is all welcome!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> It's a good thing you came to the internet, because we will tell all
>> we know in the next 2 minutes.
>>
>> The THREE pair cable isn't network, the cable ends get jacks, and hire
>> someone who knmows what they're doing and you won't have to ask this
>> kind of question.
>>
>> Carl Navarro
>
> P.S. And get a refund from the clown who ran 3 pair cable.
>
Actually he should have said "clown" pay to pull 4 pair cat 5 cable.

All this is moot if all the guy wants is 3 phone lines. His original
post is missing quite a few basic details.

Can you imagine someone buying this house a few years from now and
trying to figure out what the heck is going on?

Posted by Perkowski on August 16, 2006, 10:13 pm
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goto Home Despot and buy Leviton Category 5e jacks and get yourself a box of
500' Category 5e.


Buy 12 cat 5e patch cords, 1 12 port Cat 5e patch panel w/mounting bracket
and youll
be good to go

I think Dmitri here has a website of his that can help you with pinouts

You want to cable either 568A ot 568B. I wire up with B

The Leviton Jack is color coded and comes with a small plastic termination
tool

You will also need faceplates and face plate brackets for your walls.

Perkowski


> Hi,
> I have network cable thru newly fnished house, the wiring is done from
> mechanical room into 6 different rooms. I am planning to crimp RJ-45
> connectors on each end but have the problem because I don't know whch
> scheme to use. The problem is that in some rooms I have 4-pair (8
> wires) but in some rooms I have 3-pair (6 wires) cables. What scheme
> should I use for RJ-45 connectors in both cases in order to have all 6
> rooms fully functional.
> Website links, pictures, ideas is all welcome!
>
> Thanks!
>



Posted by glen herrmannsfeldt on August 16, 2006, 10:22 pm
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djenka2 wrote:

> I have network cable thru newly fnished house, the wiring is done from
> mechanical room into 6 different rooms. I am planning to crimp RJ-45
> connectors on each end but have the problem because I don't know whch
> scheme to use. The problem is that in some rooms I have 4-pair (8
> wires) but in some rooms I have 3-pair (6 wires) cables. What scheme
> should I use for RJ-45 connectors in both cases in order to have all 6
> rooms fully functional.

Most likely, the 3-pair cable was meant for phone use. If it is
rated Cat-3 you can use it for 10baseT.

It is best to connect solid wire to jacks, and use stranded wire
patch cords from jacks to equipment. For the mechanical room end
you can probably get away with wiring to plugs, as it won't move
around much.

The 4 pair cable should be wired according to the TIA 468A or 468B
standard, 468B is:

1 white-orange
2 orange
3 white-green
4 blue
5 white-blue
6 green
7 white-brown
8 brown

The important part is that the pairs (1,2), (3,6), (4,5) and (7,8)
be the two wires of a twisted pair.

For phone use, I believe that pins 3-6 are usually still

3 white-green
4 blue
5 white-blue
6 green

and the third pair, I believe orange/white-orange goes to 2 and 7.

Sometimes phone wire will have (red, green), (yellow, black),
(blue, and white), paired as parenthesized. For phones those
go to (4,5), (3,6), and (2,7), though I am not sure of the
standard for which wire to which pin of each pair.

If the 3-pair cable is Cat-3, and you really want it for 10baseT
networking, put the third pair on (1,2). Gigabit needs all four
pairs, but you won't get that through Cat-3 cable, anyway.
(Well, for short distance you might, but you don't want to.)

-- glen


Posted by DecaturTxCowboy on August 16, 2006, 10:51 pm
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djenka2 wrote:
> he problem is that in some rooms I have 4-pair (8
> wires) but in some rooms I have 3-pair (6 wires) cables. What scheme
> should I use for RJ-45 connectors in both cases in order to have all 6
> rooms fully functional.

Is the 3 pair cable CAT5 rated?

At any rate, as long as you have pins 1,2 4. and 6 connected, that's all
you'll need for an ethernet connection. The white/orange and white/green
pairs.

http://www.ablecomm.info/colorcodes.htm
http://www.ablecomm.info/wiresinjk.jpg

http://www.cabling-design.com/references/pinouts/t568ab.shtml



Posted by glen herrmannsfeldt on August 17, 2006, 12:33 am
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DecaturTxCowboy wrote:

(snip)

> Is the 3 pair cable CAT5 rated?

> At any rate, as long as you have pins 1,2 4. and 6 connected, that's all
> you'll need for an ethernet connection. The white/orange and white/green
> pairs.

I think your finger slipped, that should be (1,2) and (3,6),
parenthesis indicating wires of the same twisted pair.

> http://www.ablecomm.info/colorcodes.htm

OK, the one above has the wiring for four color phone cable,
the (red,green) pair goes to (4,5) and the (black,yellow) pair
to (3,6). I believe the third pair in such cable is (blue,white),
and for phone use would go to (2,7) or (7,2), all numbers for an
8 pin plug or jack.

> http://www.ablecomm.info/wiresinjk.jpg

Note that when mixed with phone wiring, 568A is slightly more
convenient, as two pairs are on the same pins.

> http://www.cabling-design.com/references/pinouts/t568ab.shtml

-- glen


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