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Faster net over 600'...? Kenneth 02-13-05
Posted by James Knott on February 13, 2005, 7:52 pm
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Al Dykes wrote:

> Also what kind of one-off field termination is appropriate for this
> kind of DIY fiber project ?

If only one off, I'd be temped to go with pre terminated cables.
It's been a while, but when I used to buy fibre cables, I usually had them
terminated by the supplier.



Posted by Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com on February 17, 2005, 3:48 am
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Al Dykes wrote:

> Can some knowledgeable person post the product description for the
> lowest-tech fiber that's appropriate for something like this, and an
> appx cost per foot.

The lowest-tech fiber you can still buy is an old 160MHz/km-bandwidth
multimode 62.5/125 micron, which is going to support 2000 meters at
100Mbit/s, so 600' are not a problem at all. There are even older types
available exclusively from eBay's surplus dealers, such as 100/140 micron
multimode fiber. No matter how cheap, don't even think of getting these:
no way to buy connectors anymore. Anything relatively recent would be for
125 micron outside diameter.

The costs hugely depend on the type of jacket the cable is going to have,
not so much the fiber itself. The OP did not specify the environment, but
I think it would be wise to install an indoor-outdoor cable with at least
4 fibers (though only two will be utilized right away) or, better yet, 6.
It would probably run you roughly 50 cents per foot. Plus installation.
Expect to pay anywhere from $50 to $75 per connector if you hire a pro.
Very small job, so per-item costs are going to be very high.


> Also the URL for the economy model transceivers appropriate to convert
> the fiber to RJ45 appropriate to be patched into a hub/switch.

These guys are as "economy" as it gets to the best of my knowledge, but
don't take my word for it - do a Google search:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/fiber_hubs.html


> What are the cost/distance/speed tradeoffs for 10Mb and faster, up to
> 100Mb/sec. ?

Both are designed to support up to 2000 meters (6560 ft) on "regular"
multimode fiber. At this point in time there is no price difference
between 10 and 100Mbit/s (if you can still find 10, of course)


Good luck!

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Posted by Kenneth on February 17, 2005, 10:16 am
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:48:53 GMT,
info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com
(Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)) wrote:

>Al Dykes wrote:
>
>> Can some knowledgeable person post the product description for the
>> lowest-tech fiber that's appropriate for something like this, and an
>> appx cost per foot.
>
>The lowest-tech fiber you can still buy is an old 160MHz/km-bandwidth
>multimode 62.5/125 micron, which is going to support 2000 meters at
>100Mbit/s, so 600' are not a problem at all. There are even older types
>available exclusively from eBay's surplus dealers, such as 100/140 micron
>multimode fiber. No matter how cheap, don't even think of getting these:
>no way to buy connectors anymore. Anything relatively recent would be for
>125 micron outside diameter.
>
>The costs hugely depend on the type of jacket the cable is going to have,
>not so much the fiber itself. The OP did not specify the environment, but
>I think it would be wise to install an indoor-outdoor cable with at least
>4 fibers (though only two will be utilized right away) or, better yet, 6.
>It would probably run you roughly 50 cents per foot. Plus installation.
>Expect to pay anywhere from $50 to $75 per connector if you hire a pro.
>Very small job, so per-item costs are going to be very high.
>
>
>> Also the URL for the economy model transceivers appropriate to convert
>> the fiber to RJ45 appropriate to be patched into a hub/switch.
>
>These guys are as "economy" as it gets to the best of my knowledge, but
>don't take my word for it - do a Google search:
>
>http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/fiber_hubs.html
>
>
>> What are the cost/distance/speed tradeoffs for 10Mb and faster, up to
>> 100Mb/sec. ?
>
>Both are designed to support up to 2000 meters (6560 ft) on "regular"
>multimode fiber. At this point in time there is no price difference
>between 10 and 100Mbit/s (if you can still find 10, of course)
>
>
>Good luck!

Hi Dmitri,

OP here...

I need to pull cable from the second floor of a building
through a (properly designed) chase, then through a
(properly designed) underground conduit for about 400 feet,
then through a chase into a second building. We currently
have 10-Base-2 and want to up the speed.

Your specific suggestions, and rough cost estimates, based
upon the information I have provided would be most welcome.

Sincere thanks,
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Kenneth

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Posted by James Knott on February 13, 2005, 7:50 pm
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Kenneth wrote:

> If I were to go the fibre (or fiber <g>) route could I get
> significantly increased speeds? And, if so, would the costs
> be insane?
>

Yes. ;-)


Fibre can be much faster than copper, though somewhat more expensive to
install.



Posted by Kenneth on February 13, 2005, 10:04 pm
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:50:23 -0500, James Knott

>Kenneth wrote:
>
>> If I were to go the fibre (or fiber <g>) route could I get
>> significantly increased speeds? And, if so, would the costs
>> be insane?
>>
>
>Yes. ;-)
>
>
>Fibre can be much faster than copper, though somewhat more expensive to
>install.

Hi again,

Might you have a source to suggest for information about
those costs?

Sincere thanks,

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Kenneth

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