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Ethernet cabling used outside Bob Alston 07-29-04
Posted by Bob Alston on July 29, 2004, 7:57 pm
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What has been your experience in using standard Ethernet cable, cat5 or cat6
in an outside situation? I need to run some Ethernet cable outside, up the
outside wall to the top of the 2nd story, then under the 2nd story overhang,
adjacent to the gutters and then inside to the access point. Anyone see a
need to find specific outdoor rated Ethernet cable or should garden variety
cat5/cat6 work?

Also planning to use power over Ethernet. Any adverse implications of this?

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Posted by Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com on July 31, 2004, 4:28 am
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Using outdoor CAT5 or CAT6 cable will definitely save you some trouble few
years later as indoor cable's PVC will deteriorate due to UV radiation,
humidity and temperature changes outside. It will become brittle and will
eventually fall off, exposing the internal insulation, which will then
follow. Although we are talking years here (I would guess 2-5, depending
on your climate), using outdoor cables will make much more sense. Besides,
outdoor cables are made with more common plastic insulation, which
effectively makes them sometimes cheaper than indoors.
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Bob Alston wrote:




> What has been your experience in using standard Ethernet cable, cat5 or
> cat6
> in an outside situation? I need to run some Ethernet cable outside, up
> the
> outside wall to the top of the 2nd story, then under the 2nd story
> overhang,
> adjacent to the gutters and then inside to the access point. Anyone
> see a
> need to find specific outdoor rated Ethernet cable or should garden
> variety
> cat5/cat6 work?

> Also planning to use power over Ethernet. Any adverse implications of
> this?







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Posted by Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th on July 31, 2004, 10:06 am
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> Using outdoor CAT5 or CAT6 cable will definitely save you some trouble
few
> years later as indoor cable's PVC will deteriorate due to UV
radiation,
> humidity and temperature changes outside. It will become brittle and
will
> eventually fall off, exposing the internal insulation, which will then
> follow. Although we are talking years here (I would guess 2-5,
depending
> on your climate), using outdoor cables will make much more sense.
Besides,
> outdoor cables are made with more common plastic insulation, which
> effectively makes them sometimes cheaper than indoors.

I can't ever imagine that happening. A roll of cheap cat5 on sale is
$50, and I've seen gel filled outdoor cat5 for four times that much.

Unless of course some of it 'fell off the back of a truck'.

> --
> Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD
> http://www.cabling-design.com
> Cabling Forum, color codes, pinouts and other useful resources for
> premises cabling users and pros
> http://www.cabling-design.com/homecabling
> Residential Cabling Guide
> -------------------------------------
> Bob Alston wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > What has been your experience in using standard Ethernet cable, cat5
or
> > cat6
> > in an outside situation? I need to run some Ethernet cable outside,
up
> > the
> > outside wall to the top of the 2nd story, then under the 2nd story
> > overhang,
> > adjacent to the gutters and then inside to the access point. Anyone
> > see a
> > need to find specific outdoor rated Ethernet cable or should garden
> > variety
> > cat5/cat6 work?
>
> > Also planning to use power over Ethernet. Any adverse implications
of
> > this?
>
>
>
>
>
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Posted by Carl Navarro on July 31, 2004, 7:44 pm
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:06:49 -0700, "Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the

>
>> Using outdoor CAT5 or CAT6 cable will definitely save you some trouble
>few
>> years later as indoor cable's PVC will deteriorate due to UV
>radiation,
>> humidity and temperature changes outside. It will become brittle and
>will
>> eventually fall off, exposing the internal insulation, which will then
>> follow. Although we are talking years here (I would guess 2-5,
>depending
>> on your climate), using outdoor cables will make much more sense.
>Besides,
>> outdoor cables are made with more common plastic insulation, which
>> effectively makes them sometimes cheaper than indoors.
>
>I can't ever imagine that happening. A roll of cheap cat5 on sale is
>$50, and I've seen gel filled outdoor cat5 for four times that much.
>
>Unless of course some of it 'fell off the back of a truck'.

Then you missed the point. Using your reference, gel-filled is $200
per thousand. Plenum Cat5e is running about $160, and PVC about $50.
Makes outdoor and Plenum about the same, expecially at 300 feet, the
difference is about $12.

Carl Navarro



Posted by Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com on August 2, 2004, 4:10 am
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Well, not sure about the back of the track ;-), but Home Depot sells
1000ft boxes of of General Cable's plenum CAT5E for $189, indoor PVC CAT5E
for $66 and outdoor CAT5E for $45. The difference could be more extreme:
0.300 coax cable costs me $3.32/ft plenum and only $0.31 outdoor
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Cabling Forum, color codes, pinouts and other useful resources for
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Residential Cabling Guide
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, th wrote:

> "Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)"
>> Using outdoor CAT5 or CAT6 cable will definitely save you some
>> trouble
> few
>> years later as indoor cable's PVC will deteriorate due to UV
>> radiation,
>> humidity and temperature changes outside. It will become brittle
>> and
> will
>> eventually fall off, exposing the internal insulation, which will
>> then
>> follow. Although we are talking years here (I would guess 2-5,
>> depending
>> on your climate), using outdoor cables will make much more sense.
>> Besides,
>> outdoor cables are made with more common plastic insulation, which
>> effectively makes them sometimes cheaper than indoors.

> I can't ever imagine that happening. A roll of cheap cat5 on sale is
> $50, and I've seen gel filled outdoor cat5 for four times that much.

> Unless of course some of it 'fell off the back of a truck'.

>> --
>> Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD
>> http://www.cabling-design.com
>> Cabling Forum, color codes, pinouts and other useful resources for
>> premises cabling users and pros
>> http://www.cabling-design.com/homecabling
>> Residential Cabling Guide
>> -------------------------------------
>> Bob Alston wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > What has been your experience in using standard Ethernet
>>> cable, cat5
> or
>> > cat6
>> > in an outside situation? I need to run some Ethernet cable
>>> outside,
> up
>> > the
>> > outside wall to the top of the 2nd story, then under the 2nd
>>> story
>> > overhang,
>> > adjacent to the gutters and then inside to the access point.
>>> Anyone
>> > see a
>> > need to find specific outdoor rated Ethernet cable or should
>>> garden
>> > variety
>> > cat5/cat6 work?
>>
>> > Also planning to use power over Ethernet. Any adverse
>>> implications
> of
>> > this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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