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Posted by troydavidsmith on December 20, 2004, 9:56 pm
Please log in for more thread options phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time trying to get this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has any advice? The set up is: I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in the garage. The garage line carries the DSL service. From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack. I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack. DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out. DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router. Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down block....) Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from the rest allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I plug this into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the phone jack and works great. I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and cut them about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack into 1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the other end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK. Help?? Thanks!!! ------------------------------------- ##-----------------------------------------------## Article posted with Cabling-Design.com Newsgroup Archive http://www.cabling-design.com/forums no-spam read and post WWW interface to your favorite newsgroup - comp.dcom.cabling - 938 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com on December 21, 2004, 1:28 am
Please log in for more thread options > The set up is:
> I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in the
> garage. The garage line carries the DSL service. > From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
> I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack. > DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out. > DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router. > Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down > block....) > Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from the
> rest > allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I plug > this > into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the phone > jack > and works great. > I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and cut
> them > about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack into > 1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the other > end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK. > Help??
> Thanks!!!
Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have received the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection to your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in one device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are not - that the problem right there. The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not have ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself? Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your cables are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not going to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling -- Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD http://www.cabling-design.com Cabling Forum, color codes, pinouts and other useful resources for premises cabling users and pros http://www.cabling-design.com/homecabling Residential Cabling Guide ------------------------------------- ##-----------------------------------------------## Article posted with Cabling-Design.com Newsgroup Archive http://www.cabling-design.com/forums no-spam read and post WWW interface to your favorite newsgroup - comp.dcom.cabling - 940 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by troydavidsmith on December 21, 2004, 3:23 am
Please log in for more thread options Hi! I overlooked the modem - yes I have it and it is plugged into the
router. I didn't observe the green light on the laptop that indicates I have a network connection and I couldn't gain access to the internet. I will try again tonight with some other cable. This should work, right? Thanks ------------------------------------- Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com wrote: > troydavidsmith wrote:
>> I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want
>> to run >> phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time >> trying to >> get >> this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has >> any >> advice? >> The set up is:
>> I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in
>> the >> garage. The garage line carries the DSL service. >> From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
>> I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack. >> DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out. >> DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router. >> Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down >> block....) >> Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from
>> the >> rest >> allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I >> plug >> this >> into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the >> phone >> jack >> and works great. >> I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and
>> cut >> them >> about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack >> into >> 1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the >> other >> end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK. >> Help??
>> Thanks!!!
> Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your
> setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have > received > the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection > to > your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in > one > device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are > not > - that the problem right there. > The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link > light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not > have > ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself? > Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your > cables > are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not > going > to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling ##-----------------------------------------------## Article posted with Cabling-Design.com Newsgroup Archive http://www.cabling-design.com/forums no-spam read and post WWW interface to your favorite newsgroup - comp.dcom.cabling - 941 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by troydavidsmith on December 21, 2004, 3:24 am
Please log in for more thread options Hi! I overlooked the modem - yes I have it and it is plugged into the
router. I didn't observe the green light on the laptop that indicates I have a network connection and I couldn't gain access to the internet. I will try again tonight with some other cable. This should work, right? Thanks ------------------------------------- Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com wrote: > troydavidsmith wrote:
>> I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want
>> to run >> phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time >> trying to >> get >> this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has >> any >> advice? >> The set up is:
>> I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in
>> the >> garage. The garage line carries the DSL service. >> From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
>> I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack. >> DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out. >> DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router. >> Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down >> block....) >> Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from
>> the >> rest >> allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I >> plug >> this >> into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the >> phone >> jack >> and works great. >> I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and
>> cut >> them >> about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack >> into >> 1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the >> other >> end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK. >> Help??
>> Thanks!!!
> Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your
> setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have > received > the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection > to > your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in > one > device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are > not > - that the problem right there. > The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link > light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not > have > ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself? > Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your > cables > are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not > going > to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling ##-----------------------------------------------## Article posted with Cabling-Design.com Newsgroup Archive http://www.cabling-design.com/forums no-spam read and post WWW interface to your favorite newsgroup - comp.dcom.cabling - 941 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Carl Navarro on December 21, 2004, 7:46 am
Please log in for more thread options On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:08 GMT,
troydavidsmith_at_hotmail_dot_com@foo.com (troydavidsmith) wrote: >Hi! I overlooked the modem - yes I have it and it is plugged into the
>router. > >I didn't observe the green light on the laptop that indicates I have a >network connection and I couldn't gain access to the internet. > >I will try again tonight with some other cable. This should work, right? >Thanks Beats me. The first thing you should do is plug the DSL modem into the line and see if you get 3 or 4 green lights that show you are synch'ed with the DSL provider. At that point, you can probably plug in the router and see if the ethernet light comes on in the DSL modem. You may be able to plug your computer directly into the DSL modem with a straight through cable if the port is auto sensing, or you may have to use a crossover cable. Sometimes the DSL is supplied with a crossover cable and you have to supply the straight-through cable. For the price, I just carry around a 5 port auto sensing switch and I don't have to worry about crossover cables :-) Carl Navarro >
>------------------------------------- >Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com wrote: > >> troydavidsmith wrote:
>
> >>> I moved into a small apartment with Cat 5 run throughout and want
>>> to run >>> phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time >>> trying to >>> get >>> this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has >>> any >>> advice? >
>>> The set up is:
>
>>> I have two phone lines; one for upstairs and one for my office in
>>> the >>> garage. The garage line carries the DSL service. >
>>> From the MPO I have two wires that go into a small phone jack.
>>> I have attached my DSL splitter to this jack. >>> DSL splitter has phone out and DSL out. >>> DSL out runs to a 4 outlet router. >>> Phone runs to a 3-way splitter (I may run this to a punch down >>> block....) >
>>> Using the Cat5, I have pulled the blue and white wires away from
>>> the >>> rest >>> allowing about 6 inches of wire and put an RJ11 jack onto it. I >>> plug >>> this >>> into the splitter. The other end is already connected to the >>> phone >>> jack >>> and works great. >
>>> I have then pulled the Orange and Green pair (still twisted) and
>>> cut >>> them >>> about 1 inch from the jacket. I then put them into an RJ45 jack >>> into >>> 1,2,3 and 6. (OW/O/GW/G) This I plugged into the router and the >>> other >>> end into my computer. This DID NOT WORK. >
>>> Help??
>
>>> Thanks!!!
>
>> Does your router have a DSL modem built-in? In the description of your
>> setup I could not find that part about the modem that should have >> received >> the DSL out from the splitter and then give out an Ethernet connection >> to >> your router. Sometimes these DSL modem and the router are combined in >> one >> device, and you don't need that additional connection. But if they are >> not >> - that the problem right there. >> The other thing is: what exactly did not work? Did you observe a link >> light on the PC? on the corresponding port of the router? Did you not >> have >> ability to browse Internet? How exactly the problem manifested itself? >> Also, check on how the CAT5 is pulled and terminated: if all your >> cables >> are bridged together like they used to do for a phone line, it's not >> going >> to work for Ethernet as it requires point-to-point cabling >
> > > > >##-----------------------------------------------## >Article posted with Cabling-Design.com Newsgroup Archive >http://www.cabling-design.com/forums >no-spam read and post WWW interface to your favorite newsgroup - >comp.dcom.cabling - 941 messages and counting! >##-----------------------------------------------## | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> phone and ethernet over these lines. I have spent some time trying to
> get
> this to work but haven't had much luck. Wondering if anyone has any
> advice?