Replacing a cable modem

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I was given a Motoralla sufboard modem by my ISP (Optimum Online) years
ago when I first subscribed. I was wondering if this is just rental
equipment.. if I wanted to buy a new router made by another company as
a replacement would it still work?


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StormFront88@gmail.com wrote:

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You don't replace a modem with a router.  You should be able to add a router
after the modem with no problems.

As far as replacing the modem, I would first check my bill and see if I'm being
charged a rental fee.  If so, you can probably go to your ISP's website and
check out what modems are on the compatibility list (assuming they have one)
and find one that they accept.  Then, if acceptable, swap out the modem and give
them a call to provision it.  If all is well, return their modem and get the
rental fee canceled.

If they aren't charging a rental fee or if it's really low (under $3/mo),
I'd stick with their equipment.  If there's a problem with the modem,
call them and ask them for a swapout.  I think in your case it's free and
I'd stick with it unless there's a problem - in which case I'd call cust.
service and tell them.


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I'd say that (under $3/mo) _is_ 'really low' and it would be hard to
beat that. My ISP, on the other hand, charges more like $9/mo if you
want to rent it from them.

In any case, there is a simple formula which tells you whether to rent
or buy.

(purchase price / rental price) - warranty period = x

If x is positive, rent; if it's negative, buy.

In other words, if you can completely depreciate the purchase price
before the warranty expires, buy it; otherwise rent.

Now, I should add that this way of thinking does presuppose that you
have a reliable warranty. Those who advocate renting always say, 'that
way, the equipment is theirs so if you have any problems you just take
it back and they give you a replacement!' However, if you buy the modem
from the ISP and it fails within the warranty period, they should treat
you just as well. On the other hand, if you buy from a third party you
may have downtime for however long it takes to get the repair /
replacement sorted out.

cheers,

Henry

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Henry wrote:

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Mine costs $3/mo and I could easily justify replacing it, but saving the
hassle of dealing with a failure is worth some bucks too.  I figure it's
18 months of rental to buy, but you have to add on for the bonus of free
replacement/repair with the ISP.  Over $3 - I wouldn't argue - buy your
own.  At $9/mo - buy two of them in case one fails in 6 mos.

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$Bill wrote:
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Chances are that in 6 months the cost of buying a new modem will more
likely fall than rise. Unless the nearest Radio Shack, Best Buy, Circuit
City or other store that sells cable modems is more than an hour away
(which is unlikely as 94% of the population of the US is within 5
minutes of a Radio Shack), I wouldn't buy the second one until the first
fails.

The bigger variable is whether or not the cable company will continue to
charge the same rental rate. At one time ATTBI was $9/month, and a lot
of people based their purchase decisions on that rate. When it dropped
to $3/month, some folks were upset that their break-even point moved out
a number of months.

If someone is a new customer, the decision is easier. If you sign-up for
the service at Radio Shack, Best Buy, Circuit City or some other
retailer that resells Comcast High Speed Internet, and/or whatever other
service might be in their market area, there will usually be a rebate of
the entire cost of the cable modem, plus the introductory package may
include either a lower rate, or a longer period at the introductory rate
than if you go through the cable company itself. There may even be a
self-install kit with cables and a splitter involved, and sometimes even
a gift card for that store as well.

So for a new customer, head to a store to buy instead of signing-up
directly with your cable company. Your break-even point for purchasing
the modem will usually be the day your rebate check arrives -- and
sooner if an instant gift card to the store is part of the offer.

--
Warren H.

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Warren wrote:
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Currently, there is an offer here for Comcast w/ a free modem:

http://www.comcastoffers.com /

A assume that with further competition from the Baby Bells, there will
be more of these offers.

Martin

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Martin Kusch wrote:
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You can do just as well if not better at a brick and mortar store in
your area. You can be up and running shortly after returning from the
store, and if something goes wrong, you can actually face a person in
the store, and get things handled or return the product. Why deal with
some mail order company that's just licensing the Comcast logo, and
reselling Comcast service the same as that store you can actually go to?
(Comcastoffers is not Comcast.)

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There's nothing new about these offers. They've been around for years.
And the improvements in cable Internet service over the years has been
better than the improvements in DSL. Fiber to the house is still a long
ways off for most people. What you're seeing is not some new response to
some new competition. It's just business as usual. But if the phone
companies don't start doing a better job of keeping up, you might not
see as many great offers.

--
Warren H.

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employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.

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Warren wrote:
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Okay, this was just an example. The local stores have the same offer
now, too, and you are right it is easier to deal with a person.

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Well, I don't know. When I bought my modem, they didn't have this offer
here at the local stores, unfortunately.

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It is time for some competition. It gets harder to get some good
discount from the cable companies. I live in AT&T land and instead of
throwing out millions and billions for useless commercials, they should
speed up their network upgrade.

Martin

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Warren wrote:

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I was being facetious - maybe a smiley would help.  ;)

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That's true - you can usually get a free modem (after rebates) when
signing up in an electronics store.


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StormFront88@gmail.com wrote:
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My Comcast invoice shows it if you own your modem or if rent it. Have
you checked yours if there is position for your modem?

Do you want to replace your modem or your router? If you want to buy a
new modem, you first have to register the MAC address with your cable
company, otherwise it will not work.

Martin

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If you bothered to pick up the phone and call them you would have found
out that they will replace the modem they originally supplied for no
charge.  If you are near one of their centers, you can just bring the
old one in and they will exchange it for a new one.  The new one that
they give out is a Motorola 5120.

Ken

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On 31 May 2006 15:16:26 -0700, StormFront88@gmail.com wrote:

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First, why do you want to do that? A router is needed only by people
who want to network more than one computer, these days most commonly
by routers.

Optimum's price doesn't go down if you don't use their equipment.

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Cyrus Afzali wrote:

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That's not concisely true.  A router is very useful for a single PC
security-wise.  It could save you a lot of virus headaches and when
you do get that second computer, you're all set to go.

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Well, that's true, and something I should have mentioned. As I mention
below, I was mainly talking about the value equation of using your own
modem. I'd rather equipment be someone else's problem, because in my
experience this kind of stuff isn't nearly as reliable as computers or
other more high-value items.
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Cyrus Afzali wrote:

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If your modem rental was $9 (as perviously mentioned by Henry) would you
still rent their modem ?  Like I said before, if your rental is over $3,
it may be cost effective to buy - depending on your proclivity of course.

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