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Here is a kind of tricky question for anyone with knowledge pertaining
to the installation of cable internet in homes. Let us assume there are
people in the world who one way or another happen to enjoy free cable.
By this I mean, maybe they moved in a home hooked up their TV to the
cable jack, and what do you know it works.  Lets also assume it has
been a couple of months and these people have never been contacted by
the cable company whatsoever.  Now on to the question:  If these people
are now interested in actually paying for cable internet, will their
free cable be noticed and therefore billed?  In other words, if the
cable company comes over to do the cable internet installation, will
they somehow know the new customers have had free services for months
now?  Or will the cable co. simply come out, hook up the internet,
leave, and only bill the people for the known new service?  Thank you
all in advance for your help with this hypothetical question.



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On 10 Nov 2005 07:13:20 -0800, Jesse wrote:
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Here is an un-hypothetical event
http://www.geocities.com/flutocracy/cablemodem.htm


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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, Bit Twister
  
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Which has nothing to do with the question asked.




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Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
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Exactly what I was thinking!



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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:30:55 GMT, Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
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It showed the customer was accused of cable tv theft because there was
not a trap blocking tv therfor they were getting cable tv for free.





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@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

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Chances are yes - the installer will notice.

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Cable TV can work that way, Cable internet doesn't.




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Jesse wrote:
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Let's assume the person was dumb enough to leave the TV's hooked-up when the
installer was coming. That would qualify the person for a collection of
stupid criminal stories.

Cable TV theft is a violation of Federal law, not just some city ordinance
or state statute (although it could also be those as well in some places.)
If they're getting both cable Internet and cable TV installed, the cable
company is not going to worry much about what they might or might not have
been doing when they didn't catch them.

But if these people expect to continue to steal cable TV after having the
cable Internet installed, not getting caught by the cable Internet installer
is not their biggest risk -- unless, as I said, they are dumb enough to
leave it all hooked-up when the installer is coming.

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Most likely, they would simply hook up your internet service, and install a
filter that blocks the TV signals unless you also sign up for TV service
from them.




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Many cable companies require you to get cable TV service in order to get
internet service.  Most of the ones that don't require it have a
surcharge for non-CATV subscribers that just happens to be about the
same as basic CATV service.  The very few that actually allow you save a
few bucks by not having CATV service almost certainly ensure (by
installing filters on the pole, for example) that you will not get free
CATV service after the internet service is connected.

-Larry Jones

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Jesse wrote:

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It's called theft of services.  They know they are getting for "free",
something they're paying for.



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James Knott wrote:

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That should read "something they should be paying for".



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James Knott wrote:
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Thank you for clarifying that you DID NOT answer my question.



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Jesse wrote:

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Don't mention it.  It's the least I could do.  ;-)

As to your original question, the fact still remains that it is theft of
services and I will not do anything that encourages such theft.  You're
getting the service, please pay for it or cancel it.



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James Knott wrote:

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Thanks again, I will re-post and ask anyone who's name is not James
Knott to help me out.  I mean, why answer a question to not answer the
question?  Must be a very moral person....



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I think you're going to get the same response from most people here.   I
don't have much interest in helping people steal.


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I think it all boils down to how lucky are you feeling? There's
nothing you can do other than detaching all your TVs from the cable
outlets before the installer arrives. He'll then install your internet
connection which means he'll have to climb up the pole outside your
house and that's when the gamble kicks in.

Will he be observant enough to notice that there's an active cable TV
feed going into your house or not? No way to calculate the odds as
there's no way to tell how experienced the installer will be.

People are giving you such a hard time and acting as though you
shimmied up the pole yourself and hacked into their system. The way I
understand it you just moved into your house, hooked your TVs up to
the jacks and you were mysteriously getting a signal. You are not
obligated to fix or report the cable company's mistakes. You are
receiving something through no action of your own that was unsolicited
by you.

Of course, you could always think outside the box. If you want high
speed internet just don't get cable. Get DSL instead.


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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:47:10 -0600, gray.wizard@moria.mines wrote:

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Bad advice, I believe. The "action" was the physical act of connecting
one or more TV's to the jacks. That shows intent to defraud, IMHO.
While a person may not be obligated to fix or report the cable
company's mistakes, that's not the same as being able to take
advantage of those mistakes.

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Given the widening speed gap between DSL and cable, is it still fair
to call DSL "high speed"?

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Bill


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"Bill M." wrote
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    So just disconnect the TVs.  There is no proof, even with the TVs
sitting all over the house next to outlets, that the TVs were ever
connected to the outlets.  And the cable companies know that and
they would rather have a happy custome paying for internet (and maybe
later subscribing to TV) than an angry customer who comlains for the
rest of his life about the Evil Cable Company who prosecuted him.

*TimDaniels*


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Timothy Daniels wrote:

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Wouldn't hurt to hook up some rabbit ears or something that resembles
an antennae before they arrive.




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