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Posted by manowak on August 30, 2006, 4:46 pm
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Bizarre problem here that started two days ago. I turn the plasma TV on, and
the cable modem drops out (the greenlight for power and receive stay on, the
green lights for send and connection drop out). I turn the TV off, 30
seconds later, the signal comes back. This is amazingly repeatable. It's a
Motorola SB5200 (I think that's the number) cable modem. I have tried moving
the plug in point for the Cable modem to a different circuit, thinking that
maybe I was getting a power fluctuation. Nope, still happens. The one thing
that seems to affect the behavior is the distance between the TV and the
modem. > 3 ft, it keeps working, < 3 ft, turning the TV on always takes out
the modem. The cable coming out of the wall is split behind the TV, with
the TV cable going through a signal booster (a few years ago we were having
problems). With 20-20 hindsight, I think my 5 year old cable modem had the
same problem two months ago, but I replaced it thinking that it was just its
time. This new one has been working fine for 2 months, and suddenly started
doing this. We've got Comcast coming out on Saturday morning, but somehow I
think they are going to just try and blame it on the modem, and nothing will
get solved in the end. I'll take any suggestions.
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Posted by Eric Furness on August 31, 2006, 11:13 am
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>Bizarre problem here that started two days ago. I turn the plasma TV on, and
>the cable modem drops out (the greenlight for power and receive stay on, the
>green lights for send and connection drop out). I turn the TV off, 30
>seconds later, the signal comes back. This is amazingly repeatable. It's a
>Motorola SB5200 (I think that's the number) cable modem. I have tried moving
>the plug in point for the Cable modem to a different circuit, thinking that
>maybe I was getting a power fluctuation. Nope, still happens. The one thing
>that seems to affect the behavior is the distance between the TV and the
>modem. > 3 ft, it keeps working, < 3 ft, turning the TV on always takes out
>the modem. The cable coming out of the wall is split behind the TV, with
>the TV cable going through a signal booster (a few years ago we were having
>problems). With 20-20 hindsight, I think my 5 year old cable modem had the
>same problem two months ago, but I replaced it thinking that it was just its
>time. This new one has been working fine for 2 months, and suddenly started
>doing this. We've got Comcast coming out on Saturday morning, but somehow I
>think they are going to just try and blame it on the modem, and nothing will
>get solved in the end. I'll take any suggestions.
Some plasma tv's are extremely dirty RFI wise. It may be putting out
enough RFI to interfere with the modem rf circuits, as the modem is
probably not shielded internally. That would explain the greater than
3 ft distance clearing the problem.
Eric
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Posted by Ed Nielsen on September 1, 2006, 12:57 am
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I'm gonna have to go with the RFI thing as well. Cable modems and
wireless routers should be at least 18" apart, I don't see why the same
would not apply to any R.F. producing device.
CIAO!
Ed N.
Eric Furness wrote:

>
>> Bizarre problem here that started two days ago. I turn the plasma TV on, and
>> the cable modem drops out (the greenlight for power and receive stay on, the
>> green lights for send and connection drop out). I turn the TV off, 30
>> seconds later, the signal comes back. This is amazingly repeatable. It's a
>> Motorola SB5200 (I think that's the number) cable modem. I have tried moving
>> the plug in point for the Cable modem to a different circuit, thinking that
>> maybe I was getting a power fluctuation. Nope, still happens. The one thing
>> that seems to affect the behavior is the distance between the TV and the
>> modem. > 3 ft, it keeps working, < 3 ft, turning the TV on always takes out
>> the modem. The cable coming out of the wall is split behind the TV, with
>> the TV cable going through a signal booster (a few years ago we were having
>> problems). With 20-20 hindsight, I think my 5 year old cable modem had the
>> same problem two months ago, but I replaced it thinking that it was just its
>> time. This new one has been working fine for 2 months, and suddenly started
>> doing this. We've got Comcast coming out on Saturday morning, but somehow I
>> think they are going to just try and blame it on the modem, and nothing will
>> get solved in the end. I'll take any suggestions.
>
>
> Some plasma tv's are extremely dirty RFI wise. It may be putting out
> enough RFI to interfere with the modem rf circuits, as the modem is
> probably not shielded internally. That would explain the greater than
> 3 ft distance clearing the problem.
>
> Eric
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Posted by Warren on August 31, 2006, 12:28 pm
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manowak wrote:

> Bizarre problem here that started two days ago. I turn the plasma TV
> on, and
> the cable modem drops out (the greenlight for power and receive stay on,
> the
> green lights for send and connection drop out). I turn the TV off, 30
> seconds later, the signal comes back. This is amazingly repeatable.
> It's a
> Motorola SB5200 (I think that's the number) cable modem. I have tried
> moving
> the plug in point for the Cable modem to a different circuit, thinking
> that
> maybe I was getting a power fluctuation. Nope, still happens. The one
> thing
> that seems to affect the behavior is the distance between the TV and the
> modem. > 3 ft, it keeps working, < 3 ft, turning the TV on always takes
> out
> the modem. The cable coming out of the wall is split behind the TV,
> with
> the TV cable going through a signal booster (a few years ago we were
> having
> problems). With 20-20 hindsight, I think my 5 year old cable modem had
> the
> same problem two months ago, but I replaced it thinking that it was just
> its
> time. This new one has been working fine for 2 months, and suddenly
> started
> doing this. We've got Comcast coming out on Saturday morning, but
> somehow I
> think they are going to just try and blame it on the modem, and nothing
> will
> get solved in the end. I'll take any suggestions.
Why would they blame the modem? If you've accurately outlined all the
relevant details, the problem isn't the modem. The problem is the plasma
TV.
And there is a solution. More than one solution. More than one *simple*
solution. And you already know what they are. One that doesn't need a
technician to implement. Move the modem away from the plasma TV. An
alternative would be to get rid of the plasma. Installing some ugly
shielding between the two is a third solution. So "nothing will get solved
in the end" isn't going to happen unless you're not willing to implement
any of the solutions.
I'm a little curious why you haven't already moved the modem. Surely your
desk and computer aren't right on top of a large screen TV. And there must
be someplace better to place the modem if your living area is large enough
to have a plasma TV in it. Seems like a waste of a Saturday, waiting
around for the cable guy when you could solve the problem right now
without him.
--
Warren H.
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Posted by Dave on August 31, 2006, 2:19 pm
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It looks like Warren's bedside manner hasn't gotten any better.

> Why would they blame the modem? If you've accurately outlined all the
> relevant details, the problem isn't the modem. The problem is the plasma
> TV.
> And there is a solution. More than one solution. More than one *simple*
> solution. And you already know what they are. One that doesn't need a
> technician to implement. Move the modem away from the plasma TV. An
> alternative would be to get rid of the plasma. Installing some ugly
> shielding between the two is a third solution. So "nothing will get solved
> in the end" isn't going to happen unless you're not willing to implement
> any of the solutions.
> I'm a little curious why you haven't already moved the modem. Surely your
> desk and computer aren't right on top of a large screen TV. And there must
> be someplace better to place the modem if your living area is large enough
> to have a plasma TV in it. Seems like a waste of a Saturday, waiting
> around for the cable guy when you could solve the problem right now
> without him.
> --
> Warren H.
> ==========
> Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
> employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
> Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
> coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
> response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
> to go outside now.
> Power Lawncare Tools for Spring Clean-up:
> http://www.holzemville.com/mall/blackanddecker/
>
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>the cable modem drops out (the greenlight for power and receive stay on, the
>green lights for send and connection drop out). I turn the TV off, 30
>seconds later, the signal comes back. This is amazingly repeatable. It's a
>Motorola SB5200 (I think that's the number) cable modem. I have tried moving
>the plug in point for the Cable modem to a different circuit, thinking that
>maybe I was getting a power fluctuation. Nope, still happens. The one thing
>that seems to affect the behavior is the distance between the TV and the
>modem. > 3 ft, it keeps working, < 3 ft, turning the TV on always takes out
>the modem. The cable coming out of the wall is split behind the TV, with
>the TV cable going through a signal booster (a few years ago we were having
>problems). With 20-20 hindsight, I think my 5 year old cable modem had the
>same problem two months ago, but I replaced it thinking that it was just its
>time. This new one has been working fine for 2 months, and suddenly started
>doing this. We've got Comcast coming out on Saturday morning, but somehow I
>think they are going to just try and blame it on the modem, and nothing will
>get solved in the end. I'll take any suggestions.