Insteon vs UPB for a high end X10 retrofit
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Posted by John D. Gwinner on July 8, 2005, 12:54 am
Please log in for more thread options Hello: I'm about to buy some new higher end switches, and wanted to go with Insteon but I'm also looking at UPB. I've got a box of about 15 X10 switches, 3 ways, IR sensors, motion detectors, etc. but only about 4 switches wired in the house. Realistically, I could chuck it all and go with something new, and just use the old switches in out of the way places, especially if I go with Insteon. I like the way a keypad with UPB can become an in wall controller but I like the X10 compatibility of Insteon. I really, really like the 'tap the top for on' switches. I got the impression Insteon works that way, but with UPB it looks like it would but I haven't seen this addressed for sure. Does UPB have a 'tap the top for on' 'tap the bottom for off' true rocker action? Both require a neutral wire, correct? Has anyone seen a real live Insteon module? So far all the reviews I've seen are regurgitations of the press releases. Any thoughts? == John == | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by John D. Gwinner on July 8, 2005, 2:21 am
Please log in for more thread options I'll answer my own question with the UPB, they are true rockers. (I didn't see this on the smarthome site but the manufacturers site clearly mentions it). > Both require a neutral wire, correct?
Apparently so too. == John == | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Brett Griffin on July 11, 2005, 3:27 am
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I have not got my hands on Insteon, yet. UPB does require a neutral. The Simply Automated Switches (UPB) are beautiful switches. I have preferred Leviton in the past, but SA has surpassed the pleasure of Leviton.. I like the feel of the SA UPB switches, the on and off are more tactile giving better feedback. I have not heard of UPB issues yet. I know Insteon has X-10 compatibility, but no HA controller to my knowledge supports the technology (except via X-10) UPB has 5 years in install time, 18 months of retail installs. -- Brett Griffin, Technology Consultant Architechtronics, Inc. get to know home technology *Home of "fidoh" for HAI/OnQ/Aegis http://www.architechtronics.com/products_software.html **keep up on cutting-edge technology... join "the EDGE" for free at http://www.architectronics.com/edge.html >
> >> Does UPB have a 'tap the top for on' 'tap the bottom for off' true rocker
>> action? >
> I'll answer my own question with the UPB, they are true rockers. (I > didn't see this on the smarthome site but the manufacturers site clearly > mentions it). > >> Both require a neutral wire, correct?
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> Apparently so too. > > == John == > | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by AutomatedOutlet.com on July 11, 2005, 8:21 pm
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I do have both UPB and Insteon switches (we're on the beta team) installed here. They are both nice feeling switches and work quite well. I personally like having the light bar like the Insteaon switches have. Yes, they both require a neutral wire. Martin Custer www.AutomatedOutlet.com | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Brian on July 18, 2005, 1:27 pm
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UPB is much better then SmartHome. I wouldn't waste my time with the smarthome switches. Contact me if your interested in a package deal. -- --------------------------------------- Brian A. Dye brian@tech-home.com http://tech-home.com --------------------------------------- >
> >> Does UPB have a 'tap the top for on' 'tap the bottom for off' true rocker
>> action? >
> I'll answer my own question with the UPB, they are true rockers. (I > didn't see this on the smarthome site but the manufacturers site clearly > mentions it). > >> Both require a neutral wire, correct?
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> Apparently so too. > > == John == > > | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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