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Posted by Spectrum on March 28, 2005, 10:31 pm
Please log in for more thread options OK. Background. Been X10ing for 10+ years. Everything in the house is automated. Use JDS Timecommander, coupler/repeater, whole house surge suppressor, 3 house codes, noise filters on all computers. Now, about a month ago, one light (3 way switch) stopped coming on at night. I can turn it on manually at the switch, then I can dim and turn it off, but it will not come on by X10. You can call this guy C6 I assumed the 3 way had crapped out (they do, sometimes) and ordered a new one. When it came in, I replaced it but same thing. Then I did a little more investigation. Seems the thing works great DURING THE DAY. But in the evening it stops. Won't turn on by X10. That led me to look at my X10 dusk sensor. However, opening the breaker that feeds it made no change. I've also tried opening all the other breakers (one at a time) and had no effect. I was thinking that one of my other modules was about to die. During the day, when it works fine, I've tried turning on all the evening lights (evening lights macro) and it still works fine. In my evening lights macro, this light is the first thing that operates. It's got me stumped. I don't have a signal strength meter (never needed one) but I'm totally flabbergasted here. Perhaps tomorrow, I'll try a different house code. But tomorrow it'll work fine. Any ideas would be appreciated. I've never run into anything like this before. Thanks, John | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Badger on March 29, 2005, 5:18 am
Please log in for more thread options > OK. Background. Been X10ing for 10+ years. Everything in the house
is
> automated. Use JDS Timecommander, coupler/repeater, whole house
surge
> suppressor, 3 house codes, noise filters on all computers.
at
> > Now, about a month ago, one light (3 way switch) stopped coming on > night. I can turn it on manually at the switch, then I can dim and
C6
> turn it off, but it will not come on by X10. You can call this guy >
a
> I assumed the 3 way had crapped out (they do, sometimes) and ordered > new one. When it came in, I replaced it but same thing.
the
> > Then I did a little more investigation. Seems the thing works great > DURING THE DAY. But in the evening it stops. Won't turn on by X10. > > That led me to look at my X10 dusk sensor. However, opening the > breaker that feeds it made no change. I've also tried opening all > other breakers (one at a time) and had no effect. I was thinking
that
> one of my other modules was about to die.
I'll
> > During the day, when it works fine, I've tried turning on all the > evening lights (evening lights macro) and it still works fine. > > In my evening lights macro, this light is the first thing that > operates. > > It's got me stumped. I don't have a signal strength meter (never > needed one) but I'm totally flabbergasted here. Perhaps tomorrow, > try a different house code. But tomorrow it'll work fine.
this
> > Any ideas would be appreciated. I've never run into anything like > before.
Have you checked the slave?
> > Thanks, > John > > > Or it could actually be a problem with the x10 product. Some times nearby noise, even from the house next door can cause it to happen. I'm talking about line noise here. Have you added any new appliances anywhere in the house? X10 is very susceptible to things like that. I used to have a house full of it. Most of the time it worked flawlessly, but every once in awhile, it just acted funny. Eventually as I added certain items to the house it got worse and worse. Finally I started replacing controls to "fix" the broken ones, but it didn't work. As you've seen. Try replacing the slave first. Keep us posted as to the results. Clay | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Spectrum on March 29, 2005, 9:31 am
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wrote: >
>> OK. Background. Been X10ing for 10+ years. Everything in the house
>is
>> automated. Use JDS Timecommander, coupler/repeater, whole house
>surge
>> suppressor, 3 house codes, noise filters on all computers.
>> >> Now, about a month ago, one light (3 way switch) stopped coming on >at
>> night. I can turn it on manually at the switch, then I can dim and
>> turn it off, but it will not come on by X10. You can call this guy >C6
>>
>> I assumed the 3 way had crapped out (they do, sometimes) and ordered >a
>> new one. When it came in, I replaced it but same thing.
>> >> Then I did a little more investigation. Seems the thing works great >> DURING THE DAY. But in the evening it stops. Won't turn on by X10. >> >> That led me to look at my X10 dusk sensor. However, opening the >> breaker that feeds it made no change. I've also tried opening all >the
>> other breakers (one at a time) and had no effect. I was thinking
>that
>> one of my other modules was about to die.
>> >> During the day, when it works fine, I've tried turning on all the >> evening lights (evening lights macro) and it still works fine. >> >> In my evening lights macro, this light is the first thing that >> operates. >> >> It's got me stumped. I don't have a signal strength meter (never >> needed one) but I'm totally flabbergasted here. Perhaps tomorrow, >I'll
>> try a different house code. But tomorrow it'll work fine.
>> >> Any ideas would be appreciated. I've never run into anything like >this
>> before.
>> >> Thanks, >> John >> >> >> >Have you checked the slave?
Yep, I replaced the master and the slave. It's definitely a problem
>Or it could actually be a problem with the x10 product. Some times >nearby noise, even from the house next door can cause it to happen. >I'm talking about line noise here. Have you added any new appliances >anywhere in the house? X10 is very susceptible to things like that. I >used to have a house full of it. Most of the time it worked >flawlessly, but every once in awhile, it just acted funny. Eventually >as I added certain items to the house it got worse and worse. Finally >I started replacing controls to "fix" the broken ones, but it didn't >work. As you've seen. >Try replacing the slave first. >Keep us posted as to the results. >Clay > with a unit somewhere. I just got up (6:00 am) and old Mr. C6 works fine. I just turned on every other unit and it still works fine. Perhaps today I'll climb up and disconnect the dusk sensor at the box. Damn! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Richard on March 30, 2005, 7:07 am
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Spectrum wrote: > wrote:
> > >>
>>>OK. Background. Been X10ing for 10+ years. Everything in the house
>>
>>is >> >>>automated. Use JDS Timecommander, coupler/repeater, whole house
>>
>>surge >> >>>suppressor, 3 house codes, noise filters on all computers.
>>> >>>Now, about a month ago, one light (3 way switch) stopped coming on >>
>>at >> >>>night. I can turn it on manually at the switch, then I can dim and
>>>turn it off, but it will not come on by X10. You can call this guy >>
>>C6 >> >>>I assumed the 3 way had crapped out (they do, sometimes) and ordered
>>
>>a >> >>>new one. When it came in, I replaced it but same thing.
>>> >>>Then I did a little more investigation. Seems the thing works great >>>DURING THE DAY. But in the evening it stops. Won't turn on by X10. >>> >>>That led me to look at my X10 dusk sensor. However, opening the >>>breaker that feeds it made no change. I've also tried opening all >>
>>the >> >>>other breakers (one at a time) and had no effect. I was thinking
>>
>>that >> >>>one of my other modules was about to die.
>>> >>>During the day, when it works fine, I've tried turning on all the >>>evening lights (evening lights macro) and it still works fine. >>> >>>In my evening lights macro, this light is the first thing that >>>operates. >>> >>>It's got me stumped. I don't have a signal strength meter (never >>>needed one) but I'm totally flabbergasted here. Perhaps tomorrow, >>
>>I'll >> >>>try a different house code. But tomorrow it'll work fine.
>>> >>>Any ideas would be appreciated. I've never run into anything like >>
>>this >> >>>before.
>>> >>>Thanks, >>>John >>> >>> >>> >>
>>Have you checked the slave? >>Or it could actually be a problem with the x10 product. Some times >>nearby noise, even from the house next door can cause it to happen. >>I'm talking about line noise here. Have you added any new appliances >>anywhere in the house? X10 is very susceptible to things like that. I >>used to have a house full of it. Most of the time it worked >>flawlessly, but every once in awhile, it just acted funny. Eventually >>as I added certain items to the house it got worse and worse. Finally >>I started replacing controls to "fix" the broken ones, but it didn't >>work. As you've seen. >>Try replacing the slave first. >>Keep us posted as to the results. >>Clay >> >
Could be your phase coupler is bad, and a 220v water heater might be
> Yep, I replaced the master and the slave. It's definitely a problem > with a unit somewhere. I just got up (6:00 am) and old Mr. C6 works > fine. > > I just turned on every other unit and it still works fine. Perhaps > today I'll climb up and disconnect the dusk sensor at the box. > > Damn! doing the "coupling" only when it cycles... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Spectrum on March 31, 2005, 10:49 am
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>Spectrum wrote:
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>>>>OK. Background. Been X10ing for 10+ years. Everything in the house >>> >>>is >>> >>>>automated. Use JDS Timecommander, coupler/repeater, whole house >>> >>>surge >>> >>>>suppressor, 3 house codes, noise filters on all computers. >>>> >>>>Now, about a month ago, one light (3 way switch) stopped coming on >>> >>>at >>> >>>>night. I can turn it on manually at the switch, then I can dim and >>>>turn it off, but it will not come on by X10. You can call this guy >>> >>>C6 >>> >>>>I assumed the 3 way had crapped out (they do, sometimes) and ordered >>> >>>a >>> >>>>new one. When it came in, I replaced it but same thing. >>>> >>>>Then I did a little more investigation. Seems the thing works great >>>>DURING THE DAY. But in the evening it stops. Won't turn on by X10. >>>> >>>>That led me to look at my X10 dusk sensor. However, opening the >>>>breaker that feeds it made no change. I've also tried opening all >>> >>>the >>> >>>>other breakers (one at a time) and had no effect. I was thinking >>> >>>that >>> >>>>one of my other modules was about to die. >>>> >>>>During the day, when it works fine, I've tried turning on all the >>>>evening lights (evening lights macro) and it still works fine. >>>> >>>>In my evening lights macro, this light is the first thing that >>>>operates. >>>> >>>>It's got me stumped. I don't have a signal strength meter (never >>>>needed one) but I'm totally flabbergasted here. Perhaps tomorrow, >>> >>>I'll >>> >>>>try a different house code. But tomorrow it'll work fine. >>>> >>>>Any ideas would be appreciated. I've never run into anything like >>> >>>this >>> >>>>before. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Have you checked the slave? >>>Or it could actually be a problem with the x10 product. Some times >>>nearby noise, even from the house next door can cause it to happen. >>>I'm talking about line noise here. Have you added any new appliances >>>anywhere in the house? X10 is very susceptible to things like that. I >>>used to have a house full of it. Most of the time it worked >>>flawlessly, but every once in awhile, it just acted funny. Eventually >>>as I added certain items to the house it got worse and worse. Finally >>>I started replacing controls to "fix" the broken ones, but it didn't >>>work. As you've seen. >>>Try replacing the slave first. >>>Keep us posted as to the results. >>>Clay >>> >>
>> Yep, I replaced the master and the slave. It's definitely a problem >> with a unit somewhere. I just got up (6:00 am) and old Mr. C6 works >> fine. >> >> I just turned on every other unit and it still works fine. Perhaps >> today I'll climb up and disconnect the dusk sensor at the box. >> >> Damn! >Could be your phase coupler is bad, and a 220v water heater might be
>doing the "coupling" only when it cycles... I don't have any 220v anythings. The coupler/repeater was the first thing I replaced. Lights indicate OK. Damn, it's working fine now at 7:30 am. Last night wouldn't turn on for anything. Turn on manually, it will dim/brighten/turn off. Darnest thing I ever saw. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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